Cops: Mom says couple tortured ???Baby Grace???

[EvolutionHasBegun]

if this happened in Texas...they are as good as dead i do believe...Texas kills more criminals than anyone...period...

but a slight sidestep here...i hafta bring up something before anyone else gets a fair shot at it...i noted the article mentioned how the couple met playing world of warcraft online... the media as well as other parties will jump right on this...im seeing a "violence in video games" spin off just in time for christmas... the internet is evil..video games are bad...tv made them do it...well okay you see where im going... anyone wanna take bets on if this subject is gonna be seen again?

[BlackMagicRose]

More than likely. As the old saying goes a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. Stereotypically speaking the media looks at what can get the most attention and right now in this case like you said it is going to be video game violence and internet issues. I think it is pretty fucked up to do what they did but I don't think the internet was responsible or to blame.

[mRs.GaToR]

It will be the Evil Internets fault guaranteed!

The issue is they never tell the "good" online
stories.....it only ever gets talked about when
something bad happens...hell...if it wasnt for the
Evil Internet, I may be the one dead from domestic
violence...cause it sure was headed that way until
I met Dyl!

And how about this one:

Teen gets 20 years for gang rape of woman, son

WTF??? The world is going insane!

[EvolutionHasBegun]

video games did it...*nods*

[Rogue Angel]

i hope these people get the fuckin electric chair. pathetic... i don't care HOW old they are. it's horrible. [img]frown.gif[/img]

Mother reportedly tells police she, stepfather beat 2-year-old to death

GALVESTON, Texas - A woman believed to be the mother of a 2-year-old whose body was found in Galveston Bay told police she and the girl?s stepfather beat and tortured the child to death, court documents show.

The details, in a statement Kimberly Dawn Trenor gave to police, paint a chilling picture of the last days of the girl investigators called ?Baby Grace? as they worked for weeks to learn her identity.

Investigators are awaiting DNA test results but said Monday they are ?fairly confident? that the body a fisherman found in a plastic box Oct. 29 is that of Riley Ann Sawyers. Trenor, 19, and her husband, Royce Clyde Zeigler II, were in custody on charges of hurting the girl.

?It was a few weeks ago I held up this little shoe and asked, ?Who is Baby Grace? Who does this belong to??? sheriff?s Maj. Ray Tuttoilmondo said at a news conference. ?We?re now fairly confident we know the answer to that.?

An autopsy revealed three skull fractures, but the cause of death has not been determined.

Tuttoilmondo said he could not discuss details of the little girl?s death, but Trenor said in her police statement, first reported by Houston television station KTRK, that she and Zeigler, 24, killed her July 24.

The girl was beaten with leather belts, had her head held underwater in a bathtub and then was thrown across a room, her head slamming into a tile floor, Trenor said in the document. She said they kept the body in a storage shed for one to two months before they put it in a plastic bin and dumped it into Galveston Bay.

Trenor?s attorney, Tom Stickler, said she has cooperated with authorities. He declined to comment about her statement to investigators.

'No doubt' on ID
?But from what she said, there is no doubt that the girl found is Riley Sawyers,? Stickler said.

Trenor and Zeigler were arrested early Saturday and charged with injury to a child and tampering with evidence, Tuttoilmondo said. Bail was set at $350,000 each. The couple?s next court appearance was expected to be scheduled on Tuesday.

Wendell Odom, Zeigler?s attorney, declined to comment on the case except to say Zeigler grew up in Spring, about 75 miles north of Galveston, and works as an instrument technician in the oil industry.

Trenor and Zeigler met a couple of years ago playing an online game, World of Warcraft, and she moved with her daughter from suburban Cleveland to Spring in June, Stickler said.

Riley?s paternal grandmother, Sheryl Sawyers, hadn?t seen her granddaughter in months when she saw a police sketch of ?Baby Grace.? Thinking it might be Riley, she called authorities in Texas.

'Resting peacefully'
In Mentor, Ohio, on Monday, Sawyers wiped away tears at a news conference and held up the Elmo doll she had already bought Riley for Christmas.

?It?s hard to think that I?ll never see her again,? she said.

The Sawyers family?s attorney, Laura DePledge, said they take comfort in knowing that the girl is ?resting peacefully and is no longer subject to abuse.?

DePledge said Trenor and Sawyers? son, Robert Sawyers, also of Mentor, had been high school sweethearts. Sheryl Sawyers said she has not seen Riley since the girl and Trenor moved to Texas.

Robert Sawyers, who works in an auto-parts store, was never married to Trenor but lived with her and their daughter in his parents? home for about two years. He and Trenor split up after March 31, when he was charged with domestic violence against her.

DePledge said there was insufficient evidence to support the charge, which was reduced to disorderly conduct. Robert Sawyers is now married and has a 3-month-old son.

Riley ?had a very big imagination for such a little girl,? he said of his daughter. ?She could play with anything and have fun with it.?

Tuttoilmondo said Trenor had told relatives that someone claiming to be a social worker from Ohio took the girl in July.

Tuttoilmondo said investigators became emotionally involved in determining the little girl?s identity.

?Any way you look at it, we carry a piece of her with us and will always carry a little piece of her with us,? he said. ?She?s still our little girl.?

so much violence in the news... these were contained all in the same little block of related stories. *sighs*... [img]frown.gif[/img]

Teen pleads guilty in gang rape of woman, son
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[BlackMagicRose]

No what did it is lack of proper parenting. I rather imagine that the kids parents had very little to do with him. Hence he acted out to get attention even if that attention is negative.

That is one things that irritates the Hell out of me is when people have kids and they don't work with them and stuff. They just say 'here's 20 bucks go do something'. And then they wonder why the kid gets into all manner of trouble. Or they grow up uneducated and just live off the system. [img]graemlins/grrr.gif[/img]

[EvolutionHasBegun]

yup that story was on this evenings news Rog...she wants it outlawed...even in the privacy of your own home...

[ellanoize]

I might piss some people off, But I believe in disapline and kids are running wild. This morning I heard that some lady on the East coast wants to make it illegal to spank a child....WTF?

[BlackMagicRose]

Oh I totally agree with you. It makes it hard on Hubby and myself when we take the girls because their "mother" doesn't discipline them. So while she is too busy trying to be their best friend and shit and we are trying to be parents the kids get confused on why this or that isn't allowed at our place but they can do whatever the fuck they want at hers. She's in for one HELL of a rude awakening because if she doesn't start giving them some sort of structure they are going to run all over her. Which they kind of do anyway. So help me Gawd if they start that biting shit with the baby we have on the way. [img]graemlins/grrr.gif[/img]

[Rogue Angel]

i agree also. people certainly do NOT do their children any favors by letting them get away with any and everything.... i'm sure they DO love the fact that they get away with murder at her house. At that age, i would have loved it too! but what you want or like and what you NEED at that age are two entirely different things.